Vengeful Heart Discussion

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  1. Qrrr

    Qrrr New Member

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    Discuss how to beat Vengeful Heart here.
     
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    bad end with brainless run lol
     
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    3 turns into battle 3, Masked Man shows up.
    Edit: killed them both and lost, masked man said, "You need to retreat.", before Urai showed up, Clara said, "No..."
     
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    Do NOT 1 shot+1 turn everything.

    You definitely have to wait X turns on certain floors, but I have no idea which or how many turns; let alone if there are other hidden conditions.
     
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    Waited on battle 3 after the Masked man showed up, and the battle ended.
     
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    Battle 4, he showed up again.
    Edit: Battles 5, 6, 7: Different layouts, nothing else I'm aware of.
    Battle 8, waited on purpose, died to Breath Attack: All
     
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    How did you handle battle 1 and 2? (so that a masked man shows up in battle 3)
     
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    Cleared Battle 1 in 1 turn, waited on turn 2
     
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    1 shotting the first battle seems to prompt the dialog for 2C, so I think that is right. (I think Clara had to be involved in the initial chain though)

    If I wait during Battle 2 for 3 turns, I get "Clara got caught." Do you ever attack during battle 2?
     
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    For Battle 2:
    - Killed nothing on turn 1
    - Killed them all on turn 2
    - Killed all respawns on turn 3

    During battle 3, no masked man has shown up after many turns of waiting.
     
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    fhs is updating the different conditions on wiki (Still working on it) here
     
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    See if taking too long on certain stages changes the route.
     
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    So it seems to be dependent on items you get through multiple playthroughs:

    1. Magic Flute.
    2. Necklace
    3. Illusion Flute

    I already have the magic flute in my inventory, but my story ended after battle 8. Not sure why.

    I notice one of the enemies has a different name from the other.
     
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    Tharos The Source Explorer

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    As I said yesterday in the chat (and in details in pm to people asking for dungeon details), I think there is a bug that will require a new version.

    The route B ends in 8b, because the "next battle to get" is broken. It should be 9b, but it's an inexistant stage. So the road to necklace (route b) is broken.
     
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    I have a necklace.
     
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    Tharos The Source Explorer

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    One more thing : as you can't go back to 8a once you got the item, it's currently impossible to get Clara. (unless I missed something, I often do those days). One more reason to have a new version coming.

    I am wrong? Did someone get Clara?
     
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    Can you send a message to Mistwalker Minion about it, or do you think they already know?
     
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    Nice, so there is a way. Maybe by doing some things when killing the monsters. I will check tomorrow.

    Maybe there is the same kind of trick to go back to 8a even if you have the magic flute, and capture Clara.
     
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