Distilled Mutoh details?

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  1. vicenturi

    vicenturi Active Member

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    Thanks for advices! Finally, Sayu dropped so I recorded her and Mutoh becomes a piece of cake ;)
    Now is time to go for sun king and garuda hard.
     
  2. Papa Stef

    Papa Stef New Member

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    Hello everyone!

    Hoping not to be totally alone here... Thanks to the ad pulls, I'm getting very close to the golden road and, whilst I haven't managed to get Sayu, Tronic Gal or Feno, the units I got make me wonder whether I could give a try at Mutoh.

    For the magic way, I have the relevant units: GegoΛ, ZafitteΛ, Schweiz, GatzΛ, Peyrna, AminaΛ, Annu, MizellΛ, Edg'low, BeauneΛ. I don't believe BagunarΛ is worth mentioning here. Any serious chance to build up a team? I haven't seen any example team around these units...

    For the physical way: BahlΛ, SnaipΛ, SuohΛ, Scarlett might be relevant.

    Any hints?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  3. Silver Mitsuki

    Silver Mitsuki The Italian Mod Staff Member

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    Unfortunately Mutoh is totally not my field, but although you don't have many photon units there are still a couple of chances for you to clear it, take a look at the following material:
    Personally, I see quite hard for you to succeed, but these guides should be a nice start :)

    I hope this helps a little bit (without an account I can't test anything anymore), make me know if you still need some support, I'll try to look at the numbers more carefully.

    (sorry for the late reply)
     
  4. mudamuda

    mudamuda Active Member

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    I (barely)beat Mutoh just once before the physical damage buff nerf with a Korin^ buffed sword/physical team so I may be off on some things, but recall reading that someone found another way to beat her with a physical-sword team after the nerf. It included Scarlet in place of Shin'en(for impair-def)I think. This method may be your best bet, even if less reliable due to RNG if you don't have Sayu/Senala/Myne and you should be able to find mention of this in one of the Mutoh threads.

    The other popular and easier method was a mixed physical-photon team which imcluded Myne in it(iirc Ed'glow could not be subbed in).

    I don't think you have the enough photon power for the magic method, even if you have plenty of magic taps.

    Some other tips for a physical(sword) or mixed team:
    - You need Korin^ w/companion for the sword team
    - You need impair-def for the burst turn. (Scarlet with her companion in sword team or Myne in the mixed)
    - You need at least 2 phys tappers(better if they have mag too)
    - You don't need a dedicated healer taking up a slot, a Magic Lamp or even Candle will get you through
    - You need CT+4 so Schweiz is your guy since he also has augment,all and you can give him the heal companion too.
    - You need grand-peta companions on all your physical units and HDZ on high matk units.
    - You need a unit with Levitation, all and that's usually Gatz.
     
  5. Papa Stef

    Papa Stef New Member

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    Meanwhile, I was blessed with getting Sayu and Senala from the daily draws. I have recoded them, level and luck maxed out and I started to farm Mutoh. My team: Bahl^, Sayu^, Senala^, Gego^, Mizell^, Annu J3. I also got Feno, also recoded and maxed out, but can't find a space for it. :jimlad:

    My biggest difficulty is to spare Mutoh enough so that I can use the second round of staves invocation to deliver the final blow. It is possible to do it on the first invocation but I find it less reliable to kill Mutoh. Going slower normally works well, with a single pincer per turn and a double one just before the staves come in to boot a bit the Mog on Sayu^. Any other techniques to farm Mutoh?

    My goal is to get a usable Mutoh for the Sun King, that's the next step...
     
  6. Zyron

    Zyron Well-Known Member

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    I would try a full magic team with Sayu^, Senala^, Beau'ne^, Mizell^, Gego^, Zafitte^ or Tronic Gal. Most with Holy Dragon Z. Sayu^ with Schweiz Bow or Mog.
     
  7. mudamuda

    mudamuda Active Member

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    Congratz on the great pulls.

    Bahl^ is out of place on that team. Any other high matk unit with HDZ, especially if they have magic taps, would be better and you could probably do speed runs between all those taps and your photon units. I would take Sayu^, Beau'ne^, Senala^, Mizell^, Schweiz, Zafitte^. Put heal companion on Schweiz if needed. You might not even need triple pincers if you use your taps well before you get to the burst turn.

    Why do you need Mutoh for Sun King? For her mdef impair? In that case you don't need her at a high SB or any luck at all as a maxed MKZ companion will have a 100% proc rate and luck plays no factor in the ringstone drop.
     
  8. Papa Stef

    Papa Stef New Member

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    Thanks for your answers and making me remember of Beau'ne^ ! I have experimented a bit and found out a good team along your proposals: Sayu^, Senala^, Gego^ (still missing Hiso God, so not replaceable for the time being), Mizell^ and Zafitte^.

    It works very well in 1 cycle, double pincer each turn and any triple pincer when staves are summoned. Can only fail if Mutoh is nearing a border when doing the border attack. It takes around 2 minutes and provides sometimes a companion ticket.

    For maxing out Mutoh first, well, that's mostly a cosmetic thing and a way to delay a bit my first serious try for the sun king which I expect to be seriously more difficult. And who knows? Maybe I get a regular Feno draw meanwhile, or Tronic Gal... :)
     
  9. mudamuda

    mudamuda Active Member

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    There's no need to fear the Sun King if you have Feno^. You're practically guaranteed to pass damage checks in the Sun King dungeon with her alone, and you'll be impervious to any solar damage with her capsules even if don't pass damage checks so the hardest part would be avoiding scorch damage and keeping your capsules stacked.
     
  10. Zyron

    Zyron Well-Known Member

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    What Mudamuda said. Sun King fight is a lot easier compared with Mutoh, if you have Feno^. With Olber^ and his caps you could take the very safe way. Take Feno^, Mizell^, Amina^, Gego^, Zafitte^ and another tapper/high matk chara or Olber^and Sun king will be yours. All with Moon King Z, Feno^ with Schweiz Bow or Mog
     

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