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Discussion in 'Levels & Bosses' started by Todd, Jul 7, 2016.
With that amount of DPS, it's ok to get PP on turn 4, you will still avoid death roulette.
Hi any one, finally managed to defeat Shin'en.
With Suoh /\ with Rune, S'naip /\ with bow of genji, Macuri with grand Rune, Bahl/\ with excalibur, Gatz/\ with rune and Kraken/\ with KKO2.
Is CE better than my otomos ? I Have 4 fully levelled.
How can i improve my team ?
I have Palpa/\ Annu and Gugba.
Palpa is luck 100, Gugba is 80, Annu is luck 60.
My team is 80 with those otomos.
I'ld like to have a better win rate to farm Shin'en luck and SB.
Do i need to change Suoh or Gatz otomos ?
Try the following (which is what I use).
Suoh^ Peta Weapon or CE
Gatz^ CE or Peyrna Sword
Kraken Kino^ KKO2.
Tap one time first turn and kill the staffs.
Double pincer Shinen horizontally.
Double pincer horizontally. Should skip death roulette
Tap x5 times double pincer w/power point.
If you have a grand weapon put it on Suoh^.
Hope this helps.
ll try this, but do you think i can do a 3 turns run with the chars i have ?
So to you, CE is better than SS or Z not gran otomos ?
Sure it helped.
I don't know about a three turn run. I always do it in 4 turns. I think unless the PP spawns on turn three, you're going to be light on damage even with 5 x taps.
For me CE seems to work fine. Honestly, I've ran Zuoh and GatZ with both Peta and CE and I kill the Shin'en just the same with either. Since I don't have grands I can't comment on those, but the AoE of the CE is rather nice.
If you are hunting Shin'en and have Yukken^ you can replace Suoh with her and it will be fine.
I was farming CT pretty easy with
Bahl^ Pernya Sword
Kraken and Palpa
You can easily change Shinen with Gatz. Also I was pincering Bahl-Shinen on the right and Kraken-Suoh(Snaip next to him) and I think if you put the Grand Rune on Bahl you don't even need the first tap for the staves.
So I did this. I was sure it was possible to kill Shin'en without tapping. And then tried last night, with 3 Grand Peta, managed to do it, but it put me under the threat of Roulette (also known as RNG.)
After a few maths, thanks to Drey, we computed and determined that Peyrna's Sword is better than Grand Peta against a 2x2 boss - Grand Peta is obviously better if you need to burst with taps.
So here's the team that did the run:
Mizell: Mizell O
Suoh Λ: Peyrna's Sword
Bahl Λ: Peyrna's Sword
Ma'curi: Peyna's Sword
S'naip Λ: Peyrna's Sword (This character has low SB)
Gatz Λ: Skullsplitter.
My next steps will be 1. using 5 Skullsplitter, 2. replacing Gatz with another character, 3. using Kraken Kino instead of Mizell. The final goal is to be able to kill Shin'en with not so rare units and free otomo.
Many thanks, Shinen is my pet now, with 2 tapper I beat him every time, no matter what.
I wish he was available all day long.
Is Ma'curi better than S'naip Λ?
I don't think so but maybe someone can mathematically prove me wrong.
No? Ma'curi J3 has x11 multiplier on double pincer(only x9 if horizontal pincer). S'naip^ has x11.5 multiplier no matter the durection, and also higher base Attack.
I almost always do a 3-turn run with Gatz ^ (Skullsplitter), Snaip ^ (Holy Bow), Bahl ^ (Skullsplitter), Kraken Kino ^, Suoh ^ (Skullsplitter), and Palpa ^ (whatever). I use one tap on the first turn, and 5 taps on the 3rd turn (no power point yet). It's enough damage at least 80-90% of the time (exception is when I have to use Kraken Kino as one of the pincers on turn 2 because of where Shinen moves). The rest of the time he's barely alive and I can kill him on turn 4 no matter who he gets with death roulette.
Side note: If he moves far away on turn 2 and you can only get a single pincer on him, you don't have to S/L. Use a single tap on turn 3 with a double pincer to get him to the "spot a breach in his defense" threshold, then use your 4 remaining taps on turn 4 and you have a decent shot at being able to kill him.
Latest Dps ranking spreadsheet thx to Arkan on this thread : http://terrabattleforum.com/threads/guide-classement-dégâts-dps-ranking.7906/page-14
Snaip^ better than macuri
I do the same thing but with shinen instead of snaip^. Worst case scenario : turn 1 :1 tap / turn 2 : 1 pincer / turn 3 : 2 taps and double pincer --> spot a breach / turn 4: Break def with shinen and tap - double pincer with PP --> boss down. Works everytime
That's what I thought, but in the video he's using Ma'curi to attack on second pincer. Must be because his S'naip Λ has low SB.
Updated my run, with 5 Skullsplitters instead of Peyrna's Sword. Next upload will be using Grace instead of Gatz. Hopefully my S'naip will hit 70% SB by the time I recode Grace and level her up.
Not sure how far I can go with this. S'naip is now 50% SB, and I barely made it with Bonna, she deals similar damage to Grace so I'll skip trying with that one.
Right now, I feel like I wouldn't be able to kill him with Kraken instead of Mizell, but I will try when I get enough KK OII to upgrade one to 100% activation, but not dropping so far.
On the other hand, I feel like maybe damage would be okay if S'naip is activating all his skills everytime, not really sure about this, though.
Can we still do shinnen W/ the trinity and douple tap charac, cause i heard that they nerfed them in the last patch?
Yes. Add Kraken Kino or Mizell for dealing with the kinetic traps and you'll be able to take him down easily. The nerf caps buffs at +200% (or 4 stacks of the 1.5x damage multiplier). It is unlikely that you were getting triple pincers against Shinen anyway, so it will have no impact. Mutoh is the one that required triple pincers to bring her down with a physical team.
Side note: Most people don't use Macuri anymore because he can't reach 100 luck (unless you put on a Panda otomo). The more popular choice is Suoh ^ because he has 1.2x stacking buff, boosts adjacent allies' damage, and he's a rather easy to get 100 luck character.
Thanks for the repl!