Phoenix Notes - Not a full guide WIP

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  1. Person Man

    Person Man Well-Known Member

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    First Ph3 clear we were able to do
    Player 1 - Gego^ whatever buddy Zam Mog True Z mage Mog
    Player 2 - Olber^ self sac capsules evasive arts gigaspear shadowy rod Macuri Skullspliiter Zam Mog
    Player 3 - Macuri Skullspliter Zam Mog Amiz deathward chain pacifier *could be different*

    http://imgur.com/a/gTFOB
    Images during the fight. Not sorting it today.

    After testing Gego^ player 3 feels better. Amiz player 1. Killing mobs on floor 1-3 lowers the death timer on floor 4. You could have as low as 2 or 3 turns on a full wipe.


    notes for phoenix 2/3 Chaos summon - give time to tap, CT chain doesn't carry over to the next floor, Do not use death effects. They do not count as kills. CT chain is lost unless you wipe the whole floor.
    floor 4 - Kill as many mobs as possible by turn 2. Summon chaos as soon as possible. Focus on the floor 3 mobs first. Keep killing all of the mobs and stack the death chain.
    Still theory crafting
    Phoenix 1/2 can abuse Z's and Earth Sword/Sorc Shield
    Do not use Gaiga. She is literal AIDS for this


    player 1 - CT magic damage - focus on magic damage with the mobs
    player 2 - CT hybird damage maybe a 1.5x amiz deathward chain - focus on damage with as many pincers as you can, however your mobs are the least scary when revived if you have death chain on the team
    player 3 - CT 1.5x physicals Olber - focus on physical damage to kill the mobs, you're the most important
     
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  2. CulturalGeekGirl

    CulturalGeekGirl Active Member

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    A note for other noobs like me: Zam is Samatha Z. Koko also seems like she'd work, even if she'd not quite as good.
     
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    Koko is better.
     
  4. pak

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    Gaiga could still be used in J2 for death ward no?
     
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    Are there any conditions for the eidolon to drop?
    I tried 4 times so far on Phoenix 1 and no drop.
    or is it just bad luck?
     
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    Random question : what happens if you give a Demon's talisman to someone with Death Guard? Do they stack to make a 100% resistance, or does it mean two 50% chances to resist?
     
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    White Mage Well-Known Member

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    It is just RNG.
     
  8. sikor

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    Yea. Got it already. And levelled it as well ;)
     
  9. Hayden

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    I'd take Snapple over M'acuri for the simple reason that he's more bulkier.

    Also i think a team like this shouldn't have much trouble to handle Phoenix III ( might not be good enough still have to try it ) :

    P1 : Gego^ / Samatha^ / S'naip
    P2 : Z Mage / Samatha^ / S'naip
    P3 : A'misandra^ / Samatha^ / S'naip
     
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    Person Man Well-Known Member

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    This is the conclusion our group and elelyon had at almost the same time last night. It's much more unsafe but much easier to wipe all mobs. I just like mac because of his double column 1 hit option.
     
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    boooo. I don't have Samatha.
    I knew i'd lack the 1 meta hero.
     
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    Only 2 clears, and a bunch of 'couldn't contact the host's room'... annoying.
     
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    What skillset do you recommend on SamZ? All magic or do you go all physical skills?
    I found a useful video for this fight.. not sure of the skillset but I m guessing its her lightning skills.
     
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    Tried a few Phoenix 3 runs with all out DPS. Possible to clear all floors but the death count timer becomes so low, you're pretty screwed even with no extra mobs. If you could somehow get enough summon energy to summon chaos on round 1 for boss then it MIGHT be possible, but you've got to be perfect. Otherwise S'naip is a no go I think, he gets one shotted by Phoenix cross attack.

    OdinZ x3, SamZ/KokoZ x3, +2 more physical DPS and AmiZ would be my recommended team ATM. Maybe HP OTOMOs on all assuming you have enough physical DPS to wipe floor 3
     
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    On a perfect run I did last night, I was able to get S on the first turn of the boss. Which meant I was able to use gegoZ to setup 4x-5x pincer with PP + S (2x on boss, 2x on side mobs and 1x on mob below boss). Then turn 2, basically the same and boss was at 10-15% HP. Made for an easy 3 turn kill.

    I'll have to try again later tonight to see if the S is reproducible. Also not sure if it was due to fact that I purposely DC'ed one player.
     
  16. Person Man

    Person Man Well-Known Member

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    To answer the untested theory of the Zam/Koko questions.

    We had magic attack self, and the 3 lightning elements *tempest lightning and area 1* last night. I believe lightning can be replaced with giga spear on Zam. This will allow a Zam/Zam double pincer to kill the floor 3 mobs with another 2 characters in chain.
     
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    What otomo did you put on Zam?
     
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    Did a great run in a public session, and i have to admit that Death,chain is very OP for Phoenix III.

     
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    wow that looked intense as hell. i'm scared to even attempt this fight...
     
  20. Rydia

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    Hayden u are android or ios?
    If android what program do you use to record videos? Im not able to make lobi works
     

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