The Boys are Back in Town

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  1. Dr. Class

    Dr. Class Well-Known Member

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    Just in case you didn't know,

    Bahamut (2/26-3/4)
    Leviathan (3/5-3/11)
    Odin (3/12-3/18)

    Will be returning to the arena.

    Finally I can finish my rivalry with Bahamut Omega...
     
  2. Kiyoji21

    Kiyoji21 Member

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    Very happy about this. Don't have any of them, so I'll definitely be picking them up. I don't think I'll be strong enough to get their J3s though...
     
  3. Raijinili

    Raijinili Well-Known Member

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    20.09 hours before we find out whether they're co-op'able.

    Edit: "Who do I need to train?"

    All:
    - Grace strat (Baha/Levi): Grace (job 3 to 70), healer.
    - RSW strat: Red Starwhip, any tough mage (only one needed). Note that Bahamut requires Ice, and Leviathan requires any not-ice.
    - Any: Healing; Any Control Time unit or CT buff (Gegonago, Ellvern, Zeera, Palpa). Also helpful: Powered Point Amp (Gugba, Ellvern)

    Bahamut, Regular strat:
    Bahamut takes about 54% from physical, and double from ice, but there's a lot of powerful Physical units (though they're not very resistant to magic).
    - Anti-Fire Capsules (at least one, or as many as possible).
    - Any good Ice damage will help.

    Leviathan, Regular strat:
    - Anti-Ice capsules (at least one, or as many as possible).
    - Any good Fire damage.
    - Levitate, All.
    - (optional) Clarity (R'zonand, Kana).
    - A single Ice unit (Leviathan requires Ice damage to break her barrier).

    Odin, Regular strat:
    - Strong Bows. Like four of them. Notable: S'naip, Pahrl (Desperate Measures), Manmer (Augment, Esprit de Corps), Rikken, Suoh, Lunato (evasion), Camellia, Grace,
    - Strong Spears, if you don't have strong bows. Notable: Ma'curi, Kem, Djugan (Disarm Bomb, evasion, Augment), Lunaken (evasion).
    - Strong Swords (2x weak to Spear), if you're really desperate or have Ka'pori (negates weakness). Notable: Bahl, Ka'pori, Gugba (Disarm Bomb, PPA), Korin (Desperate Measures), Zuzu (evasion, 1000).
    - Olber, if you have him.
    - (optional) Esprit de Corps.
    - Disarm Bomb (if not trying to kill it before it uses bombs). Blastosaur is farmable for this.

    Also, learn about S/L.
     
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  4. Seras

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    Yet another chance for me to capture that friggin' bird suzaku.
     
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    stomach ache Active Member

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    yess gonna do bahamut first!
     
  6. Neoteny

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    Yeah... also on the suzaku boat. Got Baha to 100% so last time trying to catch him.
     
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    If you want a short version of who you need for the 2 Dragon boys: Amerpect, Daiana and Grace;)

    Finally Odin your ass is mine!!!
     
  8. Raijinili

    Raijinili Well-Known Member

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    The Daiana/A'merpact method doesn't need Grace, though.
     
  9. atre324

    atre324 Active Member

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    Just to clarify, you can only capture Suzaku from Bahamut Ultra (lvl 65) and Kujata from Bahamut Evolved (lvl 45), right?

    Also what are the skill boosts/stages for Leviathan/Bahamut/Odin once you've unlocked j3? Is it just the lvl 65 fight for all 3, for an additional 3% skill boost per capture?
     
  10. Pacatus

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    You can keep farm lvl 1 bahamuts after you unlock job 3?
     
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    I'm also interested in that question; if you have already bahamut with the 3 jobs and you just want to SBmax it, can you farm it in any stage? Or does it only drop in the third one? If it drops in the three of them, which are the % of getting it (without nego or nego+)?
     
  12. Raijinili

    Raijinili Well-Known Member

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    Only in Bahamut Ultra (third difficulty), 30% chance, 3% skillboost.
     
  13. atre324

    atre324 Active Member

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    Woot finally! After a few runs with just Negotiator (only have Samatha, no twins) no drops on Kujata, Suzaku, but persistence is key:

    Kujata took 6 runs of Evolved (I probably did 2 runs the first time it was released), so I guess 1/8. Suzaku took 2 runs of Ultra (and 2 runs the first time) so 1/4. Also got 2 Bahamut drops for another 6% SB. Oddly enough, when both dropped Samatha was not part of the pincer and thus I had no Negotiator, haha.
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  14. WobblyGoblin

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    Curious what people's thoughts are on minimum level to beat Bahamut ultra. I finished the first 2 fairly quickly with normal teams (no specific strategy). However, my stronger characters are Jennish and Shaplar who are useless for Ultra. I don't have any maxed characters but I do have Grace, Czekras, Ethereal and Amerpact which seems like a good foundation on paper. I would need to develop hem though (especially grace to level 65 for the dragon skill). Do I need them all maxed, realistically?
     
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    I got the fire character as well. I thought I found something hidden :(
     
  16. Raijinili

    Raijinili Well-Known Member

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    You need to farm tickets in chat and go into Metal Zone 4/5 while it lasts.

    Ticket MZ5 strategy:
    - Farm tickets with co-op sharing. See Pair Farming Guide
    - Use a trainer (a high-level unit that can kill a lot of metals at once). See Metal Zone guide
    - If you have two members, they need to have total level 118 (=59*2). If more, the three highest level units in your team need to add up to 172. Otherwise, you may want to do MZ4 or lower instead. See the warning on ticketed MZ5
    - Don't let units level up to level 60 in normal runs. You can use my spreadsheet to find the maximum XP gain.
    - Be sure to S/L to maximize XP. See instructions here.
    - When a unit is close to 60, take it on a two-person team with a trainer, so that it will gain 70% of the XP. If it's an A/B unit leveling to 65, it's usually enough to use a regular Metal Zone. For SS/S and getting to level 60, you may want to use EXP Boost on a Metal Zone 5 King.
     
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  17. WobblyGoblin

    WobblyGoblin Active Member

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    Wow Raijinili, thanks for the comprehensive post! Really appreciated!
     
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