Vengeful Heart Event General Info

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  1. LegendaryFrog

    LegendaryFrog Well-Known Member

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    It's amazing how an even with a 50 sec drag limit can still take 20 minutes to complete. Maybe if the masked man had more than 10 hp I wouldn't have to s/l as much...
     
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  2. Quartzel

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    Some people have posted how to perfectly set up Bahl^ on Stage 2 for a perfect 1 turn kill without hitting masked man on Stage 3.
    When I followed it, passed it on first try.
     
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    Yeah kudos to the guy who first suggested this and posted a pic (don't remember which thread I first saw it in). Never fails to oneshot the stage leaving the man alive unless an AoE character is accidentally chained.

    Basically while you wait for Urai to go away position 2 as close you can for the top row of enemies in the next stage, then position Bahl^ in the top right quadrant so she will vertical pincer that right column of enemies. Her cross attack triggers twice and that with her 3 rows skill will completely finish off the middle row of enemies leaving the man un touched no matter which of the two pincers start first.
     
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    Kovaelin Active Member

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    Jainus' bash all move is pretty OP.
     
  5. kokin

    kokin New Member

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    Found the post! It's for the transition between Battle 3C => 4C

    http://terrabattleforum.com/threads/medieval-battle-4-4-0-update.11929/page-17#post-138022
     
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  6. mudamuda

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    Ella O was more difficult than I thought, 10 second drag time is no joke. Took me 4 tries even though I mostly oneshot everything with minimal fast pincers. I had Gugba but only 47% so Gatz^ and P'fizer^ did most of the work. I think the problem was not dragging as fast as I thought I was even though the pincers were good, even though I can do path D for Ella^ successfully every time now.
     
  7. Ant.

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    Vengeful Heart's AI gets smarter than it was at floor 12 after 4.5.0 , Ella and Slime are no longer moving towards you. Ella will make herself a position in which you are not able to outflank her.

    Jainus is also annoyed as the flies to move your units to a bad position.
     
  8. mudamuda

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    If they have gotten smarter then I haven't noticed as I've had no problem killing both Janus and Ella on the latest version.

    I don't remember if Ella and the slime used to move towards your units, but it's very possible to outflank Ella still. Sometimes she will move to the sides of the screen after her first turn but she will always move from there to an area where you can outflank her, providing that the mob monsters don't get in your way. As for Janus, yeah if you don't kill the wasp monsters more often than not they get in the way of double pincers. But since it's only Dagus and Clara that do any significant damage to him any way you probably don't necessarily need to double pincer him as long as you can get two pincers on him with enough buffs and PP to kill him off in 2-3 turns. Double pincers will refill your PP faster though, which you really need.
     
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    I think he's talking about Jainus NPC in the Ella stage, which have an annoying tendency to move your units into Ella's attack range.
     
  10. mudamuda

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    Ah. Hasn't he always been doing that? It's RNG, but it can be prevented.
     
  11. Ant.

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    @TrueShadow, you are right. I'm talking the final stage. Jainus also moves himself adjacent to Ella, so you cannot outflank her.
     
  12. Ant.

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    Their behavior has a little change, I used to kill Ella in 2 turns usually from the previous patch, but I now can take up to 3-5 turns with lots of S/L to kill this beach.
     
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    Woohoo, just first tried Route D for Ella /\ after resting since week 1 of the event, thanks to the setup-guide for floor 4. That made it for me.

    After leveling Ella to 45, I also first tried route B for Ella O. Awesome day ^.^

    Thanks MW for an event that had me busy doing stuff until the last week!
     
  15. phoenix_stealer

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    Hello,

    i am having issue with the 50 sec timeout.
    I guess my main problem is that i don't have bahl :D
    So i can't do that AOE cleanup who help passing firsts levels in 1/2 turns.

    I tried to replace her by Odin^ with skullSplitter, so i got something like
    snaipR
    gatzR
    odinR
    JennishR
    RaprowR
    AmiR

    Any advice ? I got nearly all free unit + a bunch of small A/B unit.


    (Btw, i tried to pull 3 times for bahl (who knows !) and i get Samatha, kirue and another SS, without having finished the Silver road, so... :D)
     
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    If you can get Shin'en he can also help with AoE. But I think the team you have is fine(may be better to replace Odin^ with Suoh^/Ma'curi because you'll need more DPS for the Janus fight) as long as you're making good chains and watching your drag time. The key is doing shorter drags even if that means simpler chains. For the first few stages your party starting order can make a big difference, there are lots of videos you can take inspiration from. Also I don't find that having an Ami healer is necessary and Palpa^ with a heal companion would be a better choice since she also has taps, though it's completely possible to do this with only one tapper if you have Ra'prow^(that means you have to use most of your taps on Janus leaving you with little or none for Ella).
     
  17. phoenix_stealer

    phoenix_stealer New Member

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    Okay, after some tests, i get That ella^ :D

    I didn't swap people, but as you said, i tried to accept some smalls chains in 0,3 sec.
    I think that with rap'row level 90 and his petaspear, it should have been easier.

    And i was REALLY surprised because i thought i will see her as a "monster drop" on the battle. So i finished the battle, no drop, i spent the xp windows, the item drop windows, In my memory monster drop was before item drop so i was ready to let my phone and TADA, ella was here :D.

    thank you for the advice, and good luck for farming her
     
  18. TrueShadow

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    Ugh...farming Ella is so tedious. I dunno at this point whether this or CF is more tedious.
     
  19. Silver Mitsuki

    Silver Mitsuki The Italian Mod Staff Member

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    As many other stages to run over and over, this is very tedious the first 10-20 times, then it becomes mechanical and pretty easy as you know for sure what to do on every floor.

    As the Forest is pretty brainless it surely is less tedious, but playing a different stage from time to time is good for you.

    There's also to say that with the forest available, 100L Ella this way is... well, I don't think is the best thing to do. I mean, it takes like 8-12 minutes per run once you get the rhythm down (probably more the first times), if you have multiple units to luck up you want to do them all at once slowly (and cheaply) in the forest and spend the rest of your stamina in Shin'en to get some extra Companion Tickets.
     
  20. TrueShadow

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    Yeah, I can quite consistently get her (many thanks to @Rydia and her guide). And I am farming her as distraction from endless CF.

    Maybe I'll just 70SB her and not bother with 100L.
     
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